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I actually have no real issue with taxes as a concept. I drive on roads, so I want them to not be pothole death traps. Even though I don’t know if kids are ever on my agenda, someday the children of today will grow up and be my coworkers and our future president and I prefer they not be uneducated fools. Even programs like welfare; some people actually do need it (way to fail, Church… but that’s an entirely different rant), so I’m ok with supporting it.
What really gets my goat is the complexity of taxes. If you’re one of those people out there saying that taxes aren’t that hard and are doing your own, I still wonder, how many hours of research did it first take for you to become that capable? Because honestly, if the government wants to take my money, I don’t think they should make it that complicated.
Partially, I suspect this is psychological warfare on their part. Bear with me. Just using myself as an example – I consider myself pretty well educated. I regularly pick up new skills on the fly at work. I can even program a VCR (on the incredibly rare occasion I come across one these days).
I cannot figure out taxes. Especially if they get more complicated than one or two W-2s.
Because of this, I don’t hesitate shelling out money for tax software or preparers. Nor do thousands of Americans. And while its all fine and dandy to tell me that cost can be deducted next year, that’s only useful if I itemize.
Roughly only 30%* of Americans itemize.
I also feel this insane tax setup funds a ton of jobs in the government (therefore increasing the quantity of cash I’m forking over). If you were just looking for people who flat out didn’t file their taxes vs. wading through that soul-sucking pit of paperwork to make sure they were done right, that would take a lot less people.
Sigh.
Personally, this year was particularly rough. The last several years, I’ve used TurboTax and been pretty happy with it. I feel it does a great job with simplifying your taxes. The problem is that it gets expensive after a certain point if you’re filing multiple states and it struggles with NY (if you’ve worked in multiple states) because they do their W-2s a little differently. It also caps the number of state returns you can do. For most people, this is not an issue.
Additionally, a good friend who used it for a few years went to try to get a mortgage and found that retrieving previous years tax information was difficult and didn’t print papers with the same numbers as what he filed. It actually held him up getting the mortgage and almost lost him the property overall.
With that in mind, if I knew I had a big purchase coming up, I would probably not recommend using TurboTax. In all fairness, I haven’t heard anything like that from anyone else – but I actually watched him struggle through that whole nightmare, so it’s not secondhand knowledge… well, for you it is.
All that being said, most of you will never work for the circus or out on a tour, so you’re unlikely to ever have 18 states W-2s show up on your doorstep and make you hate life.
This year, after hemming and hawing, winding up with TurboTax telling me I made over $80,000 (seriously, where? Make it rain, TurboTax) and then pitching a very childlike hissy fit over what was going on, I went to H&R Block. For me, the final straw in that decisions was that at least if this all gets jacked up, someone will have my back in the audit.
To begin with, my tax preparer didn’t instill much confidence in me that she knew what she was doing when it came to the pile of W-2s I dropped on her desk. An hour and a half later, $120 poorer, I walked out with my federal, New Jersey and New York taxes done. Federal cost $40 and New York and New Jersey cost $40 each. Ugh. I didn’t even get that much back from New York. And I owed $61 to the federal government. We talked about the rest of my states, but it was $80 each to file them. And, on average, I was getting about $3-8 from each of them. Sigh.
I then went home and did 4 more states on TurboTax. Because their price was only $15 a state – MUCH better – coming out to an additional $45. So overall, I wound up paying $180 to pay $61 more.
In return, I got $35 from South Carolina, $47 from Virginia, $27 from Kentucky, $29 from New York, $79 from New Jersey, and $80 from California all to the tune of $297. So I kept a whopping $117.
$61 of that went to pay my federal taxes. So yeah. $56 dollars this year. Totally worth the 6ish hours it took to get my taxes done between H&R Block and TurboTax. My own money back, at twice the amount of work and headaches it took to earn the money in the first place.
I wound up leaving about $100 on the table because I had no idea how to file all those other tax returns for the other states and no desire to figure out how and put in a bunch of hours over $3-5.
Honestly, I wasn’t impressed with H&R Block and will not be returning. Unless I just really want the audit protection. But I feel like having watched the process beginning to end now, I can more confidently navigate it myself, should it happen again in the future. Plus, I’m sure I can find a free tax calculator or something similar online.
Hopefully my future never includes 18 states of W-2s again though.
I appreciate your “unofficial” review of H&R Block. I have never used them, but I know people who have and it seems as though they get the same results or worse as using Turbo Tax. I am at that “tweener” point between doing it myself and paying a professional and I struggle with knowing if H&R Block constitutes a professional or not.
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I started using H&R Block Online in 2012 after using TurboTax and TaxAct for 7 years. I prefer H&R Block Online because of the Audit Protection. My SSN was stolen from the TaxAct database in 2012 and they were unhelpful with providing information. The only thing they would say is I would have to take the matter up with the IRS.
Of course, someone filed fraudulent taxes using my SSN, and it has been a nightmare ever since because I have to call the Credit Bureaus every season to update a credit alert on my credit file (I don’t want to do a 7-year freeze because it is too much of a hassle), and I couldn’t file an online return for 2 years because you could ONLY send in a paper return.
Wow. I’ve never even heard of TaxAct, but you’ve definitely steered me away from them! That stinks. I’m glad you had a good experience with H&R Block Online… I’ve never tried that method.
There are a lot of tax preparation services specifically for artists who have to deal with your kind of multi-state taxes. Might be worth looking into in the future.
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I actually did hunt down a few, but I couldn’t find any that would do it for less than $1,000, which didn’t seem worth it to me.
Wow, this sounds like a nightmare. I’m glad you figured it out all out. Numbers/calculations completely frazzle me, so I wouldn’t have known where to start. Visiting from SITS sharefest.
They totally frazzle me too. That’s how I wound up at H&R Block.
Wow that is complex!
My biggest complaint this year is I thought I was getting a big fat refund and I didn’t =( SIGH. I know it’s a good thing because it means I was taxed appropriately and didn’t give an “interest free loan” to the government or whatever, but I was counting on having some extra cash to spend.
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I know. This is my first year without a nice sized refund. Stupid taxes :OP I mean, I agree about it being good to not just loan the government my money, but… it’s still sort of nice to get that check.
Sounds really frustrating. Here in Canada we only file federally and all provincial taxes are take care of in one return. Also, I am not a fan of HR block at all.
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That sounds fantastic! Score another one for Canada.